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Should women be permitted to
teach in the church?
What did King Solomon want with apes?
Why not drink wine mingled with gall?
Added visitor's comment, 6/5/02
Did God "clone" Adam to
A visitor's follow-up question about cloning
|Cheryl writes: Are women meant to teach or not??? And if so when? And if not...?
The main verse that applies to your question is 1 Tim 2.12...
|And I do not permit a woman [gune] to teach or to have authority over a man [aner], but to be in silence. (1 Tim 2.12)
|In the verse quoted above, the Greek word translated "woman"
[Strong's Concordance, #1135]
Gune also means "wife" and is so translated in many verses such as Mt 1.20, Mk 6.17, Lk 1.5, Acts 5.1, & 1 Cor 5.1.
Here is one example...
|But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife [gune], for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. (Mt 1.20)
|In 1 Tim 2.12 (quoted two panels above) the Greek word translated
"man" is aner.
Aner also means "husband" and is so translated in many verses such as Mt 1.16, Mk 10.12, John 4.16, & 1 Cor 7.2.
Here is one example...
|And Jacob begot Joseph the husband [aner] of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ. (Mt 1.16)
|Based on what we have seen so far, it would be quite acceptable to translate the first part of 1 Tim 2.12 as follows...
|And I do not permit a wife to teach or to have authority over her husband (1 Tim 2.12a, by analysis)
|As analyzed above, 1 Tim 2.12 may NOT be dealing with the question
of whether or not women should teach in the church.
Rather, 1 Tim 2.12 yields a teaching that is fully consistent with the following verse...
|Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. (Eph 5.22-23, NKJ)
|The Bible gives one example where a woman (in partnership with her husband) DID teach Scripture to a man...
|So he (Apollos) began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Aquila and Priscilla heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately. (Acts 18.26)
|The Bible also makes it quite clear that women can and should participate in teaching the women of the church...
|That they (women) may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children (Titus 2.4)
|Some Christian churches and schools hold that, in the church, women
should never teach Bible to men.
This interpretation is fully consistent with the prevailing translations of 1 Tim 2.12.
|I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 1 Tim 2.12
|In any event, this should NOT be a matter for contention within the
body of Christ, His church.
Men and women women alike should be obedient to the leaders of their church...
|Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you. (Heb 13.17)
Based on Bible verses considered above, it should be Biblically acceptable for...
|Ms B writes -- In a recent bible study at our church, we surveyed the scripture where it says that apes were brought to King Solomon. Why were they brought to him?
|For the king (Solomon) had at sea a navy of Tarshish with the navy of Hiram: once every three years came the navy of Tarshish, bringing gold, and silver, ivory, and apes, and peacocks. (1 Kings 10.22, ASV)
The Hebrew word qoph that is translated "apes" is used only twice in the Bible (1 Ki 10:22, 2 Chron 9:21). Accordingly, Bible translators are not fully certain as to which type of anthropoid is referred to in 1 Kings 10.22.
The Bible doesn't say why King Solomon might want a shipment of anthropoids. Possible reasons are...
|John writes -- Can you tell me why wine should be mingled with gall for Jesus to drink when He was on the cross?
|they gave Him (Jesus) sour wine mingled with gall to drink. (Mt 27.34a, NKJ)
"Gall" was a tea or extract made from plants such as hemlock and myrrh.
Drinking gall would either kill you (if it was hemlock) or make you so dopey that you didn't feel much pain (if it was myrrh).
Mark 15.23 tells us that the gall offered to Jesus was made from myrrh.
If Jesus had drank the gall, He would have felt less pain...
|In June 2002 a visitor sent Biblebell the following additional comments as to why Jesus refused to drink the wine mingled with gall...
|I just found your website. I have really been enjoying
it so far.
I did find an answer to one of your questions that I wanted to comment on. It is regarding why Jesus didn't drink the wine mixed with gall.
Part of your answer was that the Bible doesn't say why. But read what Jesus himself said in Matt 26:29...
|Then Jesus took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom." Mt 26.27-29
Jesus wouldn't drink it again because He said He wouldn't . That's the easiest part of the answer. The rest of it is perhaps more conjecture than Scripture.
The explanation my Rabbi gives (I am a Messianic Believer) is...
|Anonymous writes: Was Eve cloned from Adam?
|And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man. (Gen 2.21-22, NKJ)
The Bible doesn't put a label on the method by which God created Eve. The Bible tells us what God did. It doesn't explain how.
What present-day science calls "cloning" produces identical twins of the same gender...
The visitor's question, however, didn't address what many consider to be the bigger issue. Namely...
Is cloning a threat to the teachings of the Bible?
The next panels will deal briefly with this issue...
|(Concerning God the Bible says...) Your faithfulness endures to all generations;
You established the earth, and it abides. They continue this day according
to Your ordinances, For all are Your servants. (Ps 119.90-91, NKJ.
See also Jer 33.25)
The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever... (Deu 29.29a)
Christians need not feel that the Bible or their faith is threatened by science's recent progress in cloning animals...
When we discovered cloning, God didn't say, "OOPS!"
- In response to the question "Did God clone Eve?" you stated that cloning is a moral problem not a faith
To me this seems like a contradiction since I thought that we as Christians got our morals from the Bible. Thus morality and the Bible can't be separated.
B) Therefore, the FAITH of some people is threatened
by these processes.
D) Cloning is an application of God's physical laws.
E) The fact that we can discover the "inner workings" of God's processes, however, does NOT make it moral for us to wrongly use such knowledge.
F) An illustration...
G) As to faith in God's existence...
H) As to immorality/sin...