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Doubting Salvation
WHO was summoned by the witch of Endor?

Doubting Salvation

1-Hi, my name is Mike. I'm seeking answers to understand my doubt of my salvation. I believe I have been a Christian for most of my life. I believe I asked Christ into my heart when I was around six. I understand that the only way to know God and have eternal life is through Jesus.

I have come to God about my doubt problem, but I can't get a clear answer from Him and I don't know what to do. I have tried to follow God. A few times I have felt a conviction (I believe from God) and its like He's calling me to Him. I hesitate because I don't understand what it is that He wants. It makes me question if I really know Him. I fear that this life I have lived may cause God to say He has never really been with me when I trusted in Him. ==>

2-I have searched Scripture about what it means to be saved and I understand but I just can't kick this doubt problem. I hope this is clear. It's probably not, but I just thought maybe someone has experienced something like this before or understands this and can give me some insight. I would really appreciate anything if you could.

Thanks, Michael
Biblebell's Reply
If you haven't already done so, I urge you to read Biblebell's page at...

Also, obtain and read the book, "Disappointment with God" by Philip Yancy. Do it NOW! Read it soon.
Next, you should read First John 5.11-13. Then read John 10.27-29. Both of those Bible passages are quoted alongside. Read them and meditate upon them and talk to God about them.

God's word says that if you have Jesus you are saved. If you ever believed on Jesus, and asked Him to save you, then you ARE saved. If God is not a liar, you ARE saved.

Be aware that your salvation does NOT depend on *how you feel*. Your salvation depends upon whether or not God will keep His promises to you.
  This is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may KNOW that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
1 John 5.11-13

(Jesus said...)
My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand.
John 10.27-29
It doesn't matter whether you *feel saved* or not. Feelings are baloney! Your feelings change all the time. Your feelings depend on how the world is treating you, and your blood sugar levels, and your hormonal balance, and if you took a good poop yesterday, and LOTS of other stuff

Your feelings change, but God NEVER changes. Never never never! Read First Peter 1.5 -- you are kept saved by the power of God, NOT BY THE POWER OF YOU.
  For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Rom 11.29

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
1 Peter 1.3-5

Your doubt is not from God. It is from your own flesh, or from a demon.

  • If you doubt your salvation, then you are calling God a liar!
  • Read James 1.2-8. BE WISE! Trust God to keep you saved, as He has promised.
  • Enjoy your life with God, and refuse to be tossed around by the winds of doubt.
  If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. Let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways. James 1.5-8

The witch of Endor...
WHO did she summon?

Concerning 1 Sam 28.7-8 (quoted alongside) a visitor named Daniel wrote as follows...
What was the "familiar spirit" that King Saul was seeking? To me, a familiar spirit would be a spirit of demonic intent.
  Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and inquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor. And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee.
1 Sam 28.7-8
Biblebell's Reply
The Hebrew word translated "familiar spirit" is
owb -- Strong's #178.

The word
owb literally means a water bottle. The word owb was used to describe familiar spirits because a water bottle [owb] makes a hollow, ghostly sound when you whisper into it -- the same kind of sound that a so-called "familiar spirit" might make when it spoke.
  I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit <'owb>, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee. 1 Sam 28.8b

The so-called "witch of Endor" was a necromancer. A necromancer is a person who allegedly converses with spirits of the dead; usually done during a seance.

  • Many necromancers are merely clever ventriloquists, who create the illusion that a spirit is speaking to them.
  • On the other hand, it is *possible* that some necromancers are NOT tricksters, but are actually speaking with a spirit of some sort.
  And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor.
1 Sam 28.7b
If a necromancer *truly* summoned a spirit, it is my OPINION that such an apparition would not be the spirit of a deceased human being. Only God has the power to summon spirits of deceased persons -- as He did in the case of Moses and Elijah.

Ergo, if a necromancer DID summon a familiar spirit, in my OPINION it would be a demon, posing as the spirit of a dead human.
  (Jesus said...) I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death. Rev 1.18

Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, led them up on a high mountain by themselves; and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him.
Mt 17.1-3

King Saul asked the witch to summon the spirit of the dead prophet Samuel. In response to the witch's summoning, Samuel's spirit DID appear.

In My Opinion (IMO), the spirit that appeared was, in fact, the spirit of Samuel. Moreover...

  • It was not the witch's power that called forth Samuel's spirit.
  • Instead, it was God Himself who (for His own purposes) sent Samuel's spirit to speak with King Saul.

Then the woman said, "Whom shall I bring up for you?" And he said, "Bring up Samuel for me."

  • When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out with a loud voice. And the woman spoke to Saul, saying, "Why have you deceived me? For you are Saul!"
  • And the king said to her, "Do not be afraid. What did you see?" And the woman said to Saul, "I saw a spirit ascending out of the earth."
  • So he said to her, "What is his form?" And she said, "An old man is coming up, and he is covered with a mantle."
  • And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground and bowed down. 1 Sam 28.11-14

My opinion -- that the spirit was truly that of Samuel -- is based on the following 4 facts...

  • #1- 1 Sam 28.15 clearly states that it was Samuel himself who spoke to Saul.
  Now Samuel said to Saul, "Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?"
1 Sam 28.15a
  • #2- 1 Sam 28.12 says that the witch "cried with a loud voice" when she saw Samuel's spirit.
  • #3- The Hebrew word translated "cried" is za`aq -- Strong's #2199 -- which literally means "shriek."
  • IMO, the witch shrieked because she was totally shocked.
  • #4- Why was the witch shocked? IMO it was because the spirit was truly that of Samuel.
  And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried <za`aq> with a loud voice: and the woman spoke to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.
1 Sam 28.12
BOTTOM LINE: Seeking answers from *the dark side* is dangerous to your spiritual health. VERY dangerous!

IMO, that is the very reason why God forbids you to do so.
  Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits. Do not seek after them, to be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God. Lev 19.31


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